SICK OF ETHNIC IMMIGRANTS TAKING OVER /INVADING US !!!!

[Putfuckenjohnonyacunt]

how ya going fellas/girls
im new here,im glen from baghdad,Dandy vic.

G'day Glen.

im a 5 genration aussie and my family has lived here in oz since 1860.
we came here on our own free will and were NOT convicts.

im from a english/scotish heritage back ground.

Oh yeah? That's pretty cool.

i do see my self as fucken rough,skin head,tatts,and iam racist,good.

Actually, not good, mate.

any how,im fucken sick to death of all this third world ethnic immigrant scum shit we have here in oz.
its really fucked,makes me fucken mad and sick....

Wait, so it was fine when your family came here in 1860 from England and Scotland but, in 2010 when someone wants to improve their quality of life by moving to Straya it's not ok? I'm struggling with your logic here Glen, mate.

this country is becoming a fucken joke cause of all the scum trash turds coming here,fuck of cunts.

I agree that you and people like you are ruining this country. Spot on, Glen.

fucken smelly mohamed akmeds muslum scum,black monkey rooters,curry turds,slope eye twangs,fucken shit the lot of em.

Oh, you mean them. This is awkward.

they have there own shit languages,food,culture,relegions,shit towels on there heads,its fucked...

You mean like English, moit pois, writing "We grew here, you flew here" on your chest, Christianity and your Quicksilver flatbrim? Yeah bro, it is fully fucked, ay?

they wanna change our country into there own scum poor corupt fuck ass countries and we white anglo/celtic aussies wont let it happen r.e of what the weak ass pussy goverments want to do or are not doing!!!

Well, pretty sure they don't, ay mate. I mean, they probably left their country for a valid reason. But the second part of this paragraph I'm not even sure is in English. You sure you're not one of them brown ones?

these mother fuckers dont want to assumlate or intergrate what so ever,non of the cunts dont want to speak english in public or care,they are just invading us in every sense of the word and this has to stop and NOW.

I'm seriously doubting your ability to speak English, buddy. Maybe you need to stop NOW!

this is our country,we built this country up what it is today 200 plus years ago.

Pretty fucking sure you didn't do anything so I don't understand you sense of entitlement at all.

so how do you all fellow aussie bros feel about ethnic immigration and whats happening to our land ??
we are being taken over and we are  going to loose our culture and identity sooner or later,thats fucked

Actually, what's fucked is someone failing as hard as you do. English is your first language and you can't even get a grasp of it.

these new arrivals have to take on our way of life and culture and heritage,speak fucken english,assumlate and intergrate or fuck off out of Australia!!!

I really fucking wish you'd speak English, mate.

these ethnic cunts are just using up our country,they dont care a shit about australia or us,fuck em all....


cheers
glen

Yeah, fully bro. Spot on n shit ay?

Fucking dead set tosser.

[redneck carnt]

well that farkin spoilt that thread!

[OzyGunja]

Not really mate...Just a one post wonder if you ask me.
The topic starter made quiet a few other good points that this other carnt hasnt bothered commenting on at all....
Sure, Ide agree that the comments are abit far right....but 90% of people I talk to agree that ethnic immigration numbers are far too high, and have been for some years now...This one of many reasons why we now have large pockets of ethnic immigrants (mostly around major cities) that for one reason or another either cant or simply refuse to assimilate into Australian society. It has been out of control for long enough now that these same people will ask "What is Australian society"?.
It then goes to the next step, which is them trying force thier religious and cultural beliefs onto us...IE - Burkas in ID photos...Not wanting Christmas and religious holidays to celebrated in public schools..."Halal" approved foods (Vegimite)...ETC ETC ETC ETC.
This is all highlighting the downsides and downright dangers of "Multiculturalism".....Basically I see it as Australia loosing it's identity and cultural heritage.....At the end of the day...90% of Australians I know share these similar views and genuine concerns...but are often afraid to voice these concerns in public for fear of being labeled a "White Racist"....This smear campaign I might add is very dilberate and effective.
Racial tensions will continue to simmer away until something triggers a boil over and we have another "Cronulla" type event again....it can only be a matter time.
The problem is, that there are enough of them here now, and they are so deep rooted that they have pentrated our political and finacial systems to the point that they are no longer a minority......Which ultimatley means that "We" (White Australia) will become the minority in our own country. (If we arnt already?)..as is now the case in other western coiuntries that embraced "Multiculturalism" such as the UK, USA and Canada.....The issues they are having are there for everyone to see too.
If you know anything about the NWO..you will know that all this has been planned for decades now...and the plan has been very effective.....pandoras box is well and truely open.

[jesusfuckinchrist]

This one of many reasons why we now have large pockets of ethnic immigrants (mostly around major cities) that for one reason or another either cant or simply refuse to assimilate into Australian society

Immigration remains today an extension of Australia's long-term economic policy. Immigration creates jobs, increases competition, broadens our domestic market and offsets the negative effects of our greying population. Multiculturalism, as a policy, is merely a reflection of our reality and is seen as the best way moulding our multi-faceted nation - that is, integration as opposed to the impossibilty of assimilation.

It then goes to the next step, which is them trying force thier religious and cultural beliefs onto us...IE - Burkas in ID photos

Burqas in ID photos?  Havent heard of that one yet, maybe you could provide a link with a statistic showing how many people have worn a burqa in an ID.  It would be interesting to compare this number to the 300,000 or so Muslims livnig in Australia and get a percentage.  I also wonder how they check ID's in these Muslim countries if that is what they really do there...must be a pain in the arse.

...Not wanting Christmas and religious holidays to celebrated in public schools...

This is more to do with Australia being a Secular State rather than immigration.  Tell me why we should include religion in education and politics?  About 1 in 5 Australians ticked they had no religion in the last cencus..let alone being Christian.  Christians are far more intrusive ( to the point where they want to teach their bullshit in SCIENCE classes) - they are the real threat,but that is a whole 'nother can of worms.

"Halal" approved foods (Vegimite)...

This has more to do with a private companys business and marketing strategy.  Like most multinationals , Kraft's business model is based on making money..and  lots of it.  They saw a niche and didnt want to lose their slice of the market - I hardly think any Muslims were protesting outside Kraft HQ to get Vegemite Halal approved before it happend(or maybe they assimilate better than we think).  Not to mention Kraft is an AMERICAN company, I suppose this doesnt bother you though..

Basically I see it as Australia loosing it's identity and cultural heritage

I totally agree. How many of us know the names of the Aboriginal clans and tribes, their languages, where they lived and what happened to them? Because they depended on a tradition of oral history, music and dance, much of this information has been lost. It's an urgent priority to record what we can of Aboriginal oral history and languages before they disappear forever

Turn on the TV, look at what the kids are wearing, listen to how the kids are speaking, look at what type of restaurants are on every corner, listen to the music they are listening to .. We are turning into America.

Racial tensions will continue to simmer away until something triggers a boil over and we have another "Cronulla" type event again....it can only be a matter time.

On the contrary ,I think Cronulla is a  measure of multiculturalisms success, demonstrating that violence will occur in an area that is homogeneous, dominated by one ethnic group and resistant to outsiders coming in.

If you know anything about the NWO..you will know that all this has been planned for decades now...and the plan has been very effective.....pandoras box is well and truely open..

Take off the tin-foil hat mate.

[jaxxen]

This one of many reasons why we now have large pockets of ethnic immigrants (mostly around major cities) that for one reason or another either cant or simply refuse to assimilate into Australian society

Immigration remains today an extension of Australia's long-term economic policy. Immigration creates jobs, increases competition, broadens our domestic market and offsets the negative effects of our greying population.

Immigration creates jobs sure, but it also creates shitloads of welfare. And shitloads of crime and shitloads of money needed to deal with the effects of that crime. And it's hardly a solution to our greying population, as immigrants get old just like the rest of us do. And I just love the way people like you are concerned with only the economic impact of immigration. As if that's the most important thing when Europeans stand to become a minority in Australia in the next few decades. 

Multiculturalism, as a policy, is merely a reflection of our reality and is seen as the best way moulding our multi-faceted nation - that is, integration as opposed to the impossibilty of assimilation.

No, Multiculturalism is about governments brown-nosing and arse-kissing ethnic "communities" and that doesn't include the Anglo-Saxons or any European-based group. It is a divisive, costly policy and it's not about "moulding" anything - it's about actively promoting foreign cultures at the expense of the host culture, and using taxpayers money to do it.

Basically I see it as Australia loosing it's identity and cultural heritage

I totally agree. How many of us know the names of the Aboriginal clans and tribes, their languages, where they lived and what happened to them? Because they depended on a tradition of oral history, music and dance, much of this information has been lost. It's an urgent priority to record what we can of Aboriginal oral history and languages before they disappear forever

Fair point, but that's not something that affects most of us, nor will it ever. And you well know that wasn't what OzyGunja was talking about anyway. But then I guess you don't think Australia's European culture and identity are important, right?

Turn on the TV, look at what the kids are wearing, listen to how the kids are speaking, look at what type of restaurants are on every corner, listen to the music they are listening to .. We are turning into America.

That part you do have right.

Racial tensions will continue to simmer away until something triggers a boil over and we have another "Cronulla" type event again....it can only be a matter time.

On the contrary ,I think Cronulla is a  measure of multiculturalisms success, demonstrating that violence will occur in an area that is homogeneous, dominated by one ethnic group and resistant to outsiders coming in.

And that's success? And what an incredibly stupid comment. The areas with the greatest violence in Australia are the areas dominated by non-European ethnic groups. Oops, your multicultural rainbow fantasy doesn't work so well after all, does it?

[OzyGunja]

well that farkin spoilt that thread!

Told ya it was only getting started Redneck Carnt...haha!
Lots of good discussion to be  had here.....thanks for both your recent comments...(Cheers Jaxxen I totally agree...)
No one has been called a "Poofter" or been accused of being a "Closet homo" yet?.....It actually makes for a nice change!
JFC - I will get back to your comments when I have some more time to post a proper reply..
Cheers n Beers!

[OzyGunja]

This one of many reasons why we now have large pockets of ethnic immigrants (mostly around major cities) that for one reason or another either cant or simply refuse to assimilate into Australian society

Immigration remains today an extension of Australia's long-term economic policy. Immigration creates jobs, increases competition, broadens our domestic market and offsets the negative effects of our greying population. Multiculturalism, as a policy, is merely a reflection of our reality and is seen as the best way moulding our multi-faceted nation - that is, integration as opposed to the impossibilty of assimilation.

You are right..Immigration has always been part of our long term economic policy...But it was controlled immigration under the White Australia Policy untill the late 70's...A far cry from what we have now.
I would agree with Jaxxens comments on this 100% and have witnessed ethnic violence and racism towards "Aussies" (In Australia) first hand....Have you?

It then goes to the next step, which is them trying force thier religious and cultural beliefs onto us...IE - Burkas in ID photos

Burqas in ID photos?  Havent heard of that one yet, maybe you could provide a link with a statistic showing how many people have worn a burqa in an ID.  It would be interesting to compare this number to the 300,000 or so Muslims livnig in Australia and get a percentage.  I also wonder how they check ID's in these Muslim countries if that is what they really do there...must be a pain in the arse.

Funny story about that..well kind of?
I was in the post office the other day and noticed the "Right" and "Wrong" poster about what types of passport photos will be approved.
I noticed the one with a muslim woman wearing a burka with only her eyes visiable..That was marked "Wrong"...With her face showing but the rest of her head and forehead were covered...That one was OK..lol
We also had an incident not far from where I live recently where a muslim woman refused to remove her burka at an outdoor kart hire place and threatend to sue for discrimination if they wouldnt let her ride...Even though it was clearly in the opperator's rules (no loose clothing)
The burka got wrapped around the chain and broke her neck..she died at the scene.
I mention it as one of many possible examples of immigrants forcing thier cultures and religious beliefs on us...

This sound familiar? -

"After Sydney not wanting to offend by not putting up Xmas lights. After hearing that the state of South Australia changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver’s license with her face covered prompted this editorial written by an Australian citizen, Published in an Australian newspaper."..Australia - The right to leave...etc etc

...Not wanting Christmas and religious holidays to celebrated in public schools...

This is more to do with Australia being a Secular State rather than immigration.  Tell me why we should include religion in education and politics?  About 1 in 5 Australians ticked they had no religion in the last cencus..let alone being Christian.  Christians are far more intrusive ( to the point where they want to teach their bullshit in SCIENCE classes) - they are the real threat,but that is a whole 'nother can of worms.

I dont agree with religion being taught in schools either and agree with you that organised religious institutions are a real threat...but like it or not we have been a Christian based country since settlement...and for immigrant influence to cause such huge change to such long held traditionalist events of celebration....To most Australians is simply offencive.

"Halal" approved foods (Vegimite)...

This has more to do with a private companys business and marketing strategy.  Like most multinationals , Kraft's business model is based on making money..and  lots of it.  They saw a niche and didnt want to lose their slice of the market - I hardly think any Muslims were protesting outside Kraft HQ to get Vegemite Halal approved before it happend(or maybe they assimilate better than we think).  Not to mention Kraft is an AMERICAN company, I suppose this doesnt bother you though..

 
So the fact that as of 2010 Vegimite is now "Kosher" and "Halal" certified doesn't bother you at all??
Very little Vegimite would be sold outside of Australia...Does this not highlight the compounding problem of ethnic immigration forcing "Unwanted" cultural change amongst most (white) Australians? (The original topic of this thread BTW)..lol

Basically I see it as Australia loosing it's identity and cultural heritage

I totally agree. How many of us know the names of the Aboriginal clans and tribes, their languages, where they lived and what happened to them? Because they depended on a tradition of oral history, music and dance, much of this information has been lost. It's an urgent priority to record what we can of Aboriginal oral history and languages before they disappear forever

Turn on the TV, look at what the kids are wearing, listen to how the kids are speaking, look at what type of restaurants are on every corner, listen to the music they are listening to .. We are turning into America

You have taken me out of context...but I agree that kids these days are more n more fucked up.
Talk to a few (Aussie) teenagers at school in capital cities and listen to the sort of shit they have to put up with from gangs of ethnic kids...It just makes my blood boil.
As for us turning in Americans?...Using your logic...It is just further evidence of the influence of American companies with finacial interests in Australia...obvioulsy its profitable....You dont see a pattern forming here yet mate?..lol

Racial tensions will continue to simmer away until something triggers a boil over and we have another "Cronulla" type event again....it can only be a matter time.

On the contrary ,I think Cronulla is a  measure of multiculturalisms success, demonstrating that violence will occur in an area that is homogeneous, dominated by one ethnic group and resistant to outsiders coming in.

That's a pretty ridiculas thing to say man....So when the minority eventually swings the other way?..That's gunna be cool with you?...Are you for real?..Are you even Australian JFC?..Time to tell us what ethnic group you belong to bud so we know what sideof the fence your from here.

If you know anything about the NWO..you will know that all this has been planned for decades now...and the plan has been very effective.....pandoras box is well and truely open..

Take off the tin-foil hat mate.

Comments like that are widley used to create a stigma in the interest and further investigation of many conspiracy theories by those who wish the truth to stay hidden in plain sight....thats just a fact...No tin foil hat required...lol
To not recognise the existance of a NWO these days is simply plain ignorance.
Do your own research on it...there is more than enough credible sources out there if you are willing to look an accept some uncomfortable truths.
Best of luck...We dont have agree on everything and we probebly wont...but I appreciate the civil debate and lively discussion.

Cheers n Beers

[redneck carnt]

showed me up didnt ya's? lol

well that farkin spoilt that thread!

Told ya it was only getting started Redneck Carnt...haha!
Lots of good discussion to be  had here.....

[jesusfuckinchrist]

Immigration creates jobs sure, but it also creates shitloads of welfare.

Most immigrants are of working age, which means they consume less of the services provided by the state, such as health care, welfare and education, and pay more in taxes.

shitloads of crime and shitloads of money needed to deal with the effects of that crime

Interesting…Do you have any evidence to back up your claim?
The supposed links between immigrant minorities and criminal behaviour is a recurring theme in Australian immigration history . The 1950s and 1960s were dominated by immigration of Greeks and Italians, and these groups were soon linked to crime in Australia. Same with the Asians in the late 70’s and 80’s.

No, Multiculturalism is about governments brown-nosing and arse-kissing ethnic "communities" and that doesn't include the Anglo-Saxons or any European-based group. It is a divisive, costly policy and it's not about "moulding" anything - it's about actively promoting foreign cultures at the expense of the host culture, and using taxpayers money to do it.

You honestly think the government sat around parliament one day and just decided we needed multiculturalism so they could kiss their arses?  That is extremely illogical and doesn’t hold any merit what so ever.  Maybe you could present an argument with some facts and statistics instead of these non-tangible subtleties

And I just love the way people like you are concerned with only the economic impact of immigration. As if that's the most important thing when Europeans stand to become a minority in Australia in the next few decades

What an amazingly ignorant thing to say.  Just because YOU don’t understand what effect the economy has on your quality of life doesn’t mean it isn’t important and infinitely more important than something as petty the colour of someone’s skin.

Fair point, but that's not something that affects most of us, nor will it ever. And you well know that wasn't what OzyGunja was talking about anyway. But then I guess you don't think Australia's European culture and identity are important, right?

As a third generation Australian of Welsh heritage, why wouldn’t I?

The areas with the greatest violence in Australia are the areas dominated by non-European ethnic groups.

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (http://www.abs.gov.au)  Darwin per capita has the highest crime rate of any Australian city – it is also the most homogenous city in Australia , with nearly 80% of its population either of Australian or  British heritage and 9.7% Aboriginal – while Alice Springs has the second highest crime rate in Australia – overall – no, not per capita, overall with a population of UNDER 30,000 they have the second highest crime rate overall – Once again easily one of the most homogenous cities in Australia with demographics similar to Darwin .

Oops, your multicultural rainbow fantasy doesn't work so well after all, does it?

Fantasy?  I think you mean reality.. Australia’s is one of the most multicultural countries in the world and currently ranks in the top few in terms of standard of living , life expectancy , education, literacy , economically  and general well being.  So yes, it is working out well.

[jesusfuckinchrist]

I would agree with Jaxxens comments on this 100% and have witnessed ethnic violence and racism towards "Aussies" (In Australia) first hand....Have you?

Possibly a handful of times , but definately a much smaller number than white on white violence and white racism toward ethnics... not that a persons singular experiences has any merit what so ever.  I'd be extremely suprised if statistics showed ethnic violence toward aussies to be higher than aussie on aussie violence.

I was in the post office the other day and noticed the "Right" and "Wrong" poster about what types of passport photos will be approved.
I noticed the one with a muslim woman wearing a burka with only her eyes visiable..That was marked "Wrong"...With her face showing but the rest of her head and forehead were covered?

I see nothing wrong with this as passport photo guidelines require a photo of the centre face from the  bottom of the chin to the crown (i.e. top of head without hair) as hairstyle can varied/ changed.  I suspect you may be incorrect about the forehead being covered.

We also had an incident not far from where I live recently where a muslim woman refused to remove her burka at an outdoor kart hire place and threatend to sue for discrimination if they wouldnt let her ride...Even though it was clearly in the opperator's rules (no loose clothing)
The burka got wrapped around the chain and broke her neck..she died at the scene.
I mention it as one of many possible examples of immigrants forcing thier cultures and religious beliefs on us

Again this is a singular personal experience  and doesnt really hold any merit as evidence toward immigrants forcing their beliefs on to us.  Although it is an interesting story and I'm sure it would have drummed up plenty of media interest espcially with muslims being a hop topic these days.  Can you provide a link to the news article?

...but like it or not we have been a Christian based country since settlement...and for immigrant influence to cause such huge change to such long held traditionalist events of celebration....To most Australians is simply offencive.

Actually according to Section 116 of the 1900 Act to constitute the Commonwealth of Australia (Australian Constitution) - "The Commonwealth of Australia shall not make any law establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth" - in laymans terms , we have no religion.

Although as an athiest I find it offensive I attended state schools and was force fed christian beliefs and made to pray to their god  before class.

So the fact that as of 2010 Vegimite is now "Kosher" and "Halal" certified doesn't bother you at all??

No , not really. I eat it atleast weekly and actually was unaware of that until you informed me.

Are you for real?..Are you even Australian JFC?..Time to tell us what ethnic group you belong to bud so we know what sideof the fence your from here.

Third generation Australian of Welsh heritage on both sides of the family.

Comments like that are widley used to create a stigma in the interest and further investigation of many conspiracy theories by those who wish the truth to stay hidden in plain sight....thats just a fact...No tin foil hat required...lol
To not recognise the existance of a NWO these days is simply plain ignorance.
Do your own research on it...there is more than enough credible sources out there if you are willing to look an accept some uncomfortable truths.
Best of luck...We dont have agree on everything and we probebly wont...but I appreciate the civil debate and lively discussion..

Haha ok , I'm not going to get into conspiracy theories because that is getting way of topic and is a bit ridiculous really.  But as you are the one that has made the claim maybe you can provide me with with some credible sources in support of this NWO theory?

Back to the crux of the thread though..


Countries that have tried to force everyone to be the same mono-culture have torn themselves apart. Countries that have realised that mutual respect, tolerance and compromise between different people is vital have prospered.

Most countries that have tried to force assimilation have suffered terribly from the consequences. A large percentage of our immigrants (Irish Catholics, Greek Macedonians, Balkan Slavs, Kurds etc) have seen the nightmare that arrises when one dominant culture tries to impose its language, customs, religion and society on another.

Multiculturism is not oblidging people to abandon their identites and assume a new one. It is respecting people's culture and backgrounds and allowing them to be themselves.


 

[OzyGunja]

I agree this is getting abit ridicuals now...TBH I think when you boil it all down we probebly agree on alot of stuff anyway.
I don't consider myself a racist...One of my best mates is part Aboriginal.....I have many posts on this board about this subject...I feel I have made my position clear.....
I have posted this a few times..and believe it explains my POV the best - http://www.bogan.com.au/forum/the-bogan-world-around-us/immigration/msg32555/#msg32555

I'm not going to pick the eyes out of singular events anymore as they were used only as one of many examples abou tthe point I was trying to make....but here's a link to a report on the acident I mentioned with a Burka- http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/08/2867849.htm

As for the Vegemite thing...I hadn't noticed either until recently when a mate pointed it out....To me, it just highlights the fact that there are so many of them here, that Kraft feel they need to change thier marketing for them.....No one is denying theres a shitload of em here now...lol

3rd generation Welsh decent eh?...OK...I'm from Welsh and Scotish stock too.....I think you are prob abit younger than me, your arguments sound very familiar to what gets taught in schools and universities these days...haha

Maybe you should be puting your tinfoil hat ON mate....haha!
You will either be able to accept some truths about the NWO or you simply cant...The brainwashing techniques have been perfected over many years..and these guys are on top of thier game....You are exposed to hundreds/possibly thousands of subliminal messages everyday to help keep re-enforcing this...it is a journey you will have to make alone unfortunatley......take the red pill mate!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGQF8LAmiaE

[jaxxen]

shitloads of crime and shitloads of money needed to deal with the effects of that crime

Interesting…Do you have any evidence to back up your claim?
The supposed links between immigrant minorities and criminal behaviour is a recurring theme in Australian immigration history . The 1950s and 1960s were dominated by immigration of Greeks and Italians, and these groups were soon linked to crime in Australia. Same with the Asians in the late 70’s and 80’s.

Of course they were because they brought crime to Australia. The Italians were involved in organised crime (and still are). When the Asians came, the heroin problem grew. When we let in Africans in the 1990s, we started getting carjackings.

I'll get back to you on criminal activity, but my guess is you are blissfully ignorant that the Australian government actually stopped recording crime statistics by country of origin back in the mid 1990s. Can you figure out why?

No, Multiculturalism is about governments brown-nosing and arse-kissing ethnic "communities" and that doesn't include the Anglo-Saxons or any European-based group. It is a divisive, costly policy and it's not about "moulding" anything - it's about actively promoting foreign cultures at the expense of the host culture, and using taxpayers money to do it.

You honestly think the government sat around parliament one day and just decided we needed multiculturalism so they could kiss their arses?  That is extremely illogical and doesn’t hold any merit what so ever.

 

That my friend is known as a "straw man" argument.

Multiculturalism is a political policy to actively encourage the strengthening, building, and promotion of separate cultural units within Australia.

Maybe you could present an argument with some facts and statistics instead of these non-tangible subtleties

Ummm $200 odd million spent on SBS each year?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/entertainment/tv--radio/sbs-at-a-crossroads/2008/10/12/1223749841987.html

Oh, and if you want facts. Here's a wonderful source. 

http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/pc/multi3.htm

And I just love the way people like you are concerned with only the economic impact of immigration. As if that's the most important thing when Europeans stand to become a minority in Australia in the next few decades

What an amazingly ignorant thing to say.  Just because YOU don’t understand what effect the economy has on your quality of life doesn’t mean it isn’t important and infinitely more important than something as petty the colour of someone’s skin.

Such a comment demonstrates not only your staggering ignorance on matters ethnological, but also your indoctrination. I see I shall have to re-educate you. For one, skin colour is but a very superficial aspect of race. The critical factors in race are skull shape, teeth and bone structure. For example, there are albino Africans who have very light skin. But they look nothing like Europeans because their skull shape is still negroid, so they still have the protruding jaw, wide flat noses, and teeth of a negro.

Contrary to what is commonly propagated these days, race is a critical factor in the human drama. Racial egalitarianism is one of the great delusions of our age. There is an enormous amount of evidence (and it's growing all the time) to demonstrate that different races of human display different intelligence levels, temperaments and behaviour.

A civilisation is not merely the product of its natural, cultural and historical development. It is also very much a product of the collective brain impulses of its people. And different races produce different outcomes. If you profoundly change the racial makeup of a society, that society itself will profoundly change. All the historical evidence demonstrates exactly this.

Focussing only on short term economic growth whilst ignoring the long term impacts on the human environment, is as short-sighted and stupid as caring only about economic growth and ignoring the natural environment.

Fair point, but that's not something that affects most of us, nor will it ever. And you well know that wasn't what OzyGunja was talking about anyway. But then I guess you don't think Australia's European culture and identity are important, right?

As a third generation Australian of Welsh heritage, why wouldn’t I?

Ummm so? Julia Gillard is of Welsh heritage too. With her immigration policies, it's obvious she doesn't care much about preserving Australia's European heritage either.

The areas with the greatest violence in Australia are the areas dominated by non-European ethnic groups.

According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (http://www.abs.gov.au)  Darwin per capita has the highest crime rate of any Australian city – it is also the most homogenous city in Australia , with nearly 80% of its population either of Australian or  British heritage and 9.7% Aboriginal – while Alice Springs has the second highest crime rate in Australia – overall – no, not per capita, overall with a population of UNDER 30,000 they have the second highest crime rate overall – Once again easily one of the most homogenous cities in Australia with demographics similar to Darwin.

Darwin and Alice Springs have the highest crime rates in Australia, and you haven't made the connection?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/04/08/2867415.htm?site=darwin

Almost 60,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people live in the Northern Territory in Australia. This is about 29% of the Territory's population.

http://www.nlc.org.au/html/over_nt.html

Oops, your multicultural rainbow fantasy doesn't work so well after all, does it?

Fantasy?  I think you mean reality.. Australia’s is one of the most multicultural countries in the world and currently ranks in the top few in terms of standard of living , life expectancy , education, literacy , economically  and general well being.  So yes, it is working out well.

But you don't understand why we rank so highly in such areas. And for your information, we ranked very highly in such areas before we were stupid enough to abolish the White Australia Policy and embrace your precious Multiculturalism. Multiculturalism has nothing to do with our success in any area - even if the trendy and subjective views of the chardonnay socialist set value "diversity" as a success in itself.

And before you mention the benefits of greater access to ethnic cuisine (a favoured argument of Multiculturalists), I shall point out that we live in the Information Age today where it is now very easy for Aussies to learn how to cook ethnic food. Hence we don't need more and more foreigners to teach us how to cook it.

Australia's success as a nation is the success of a people - the Anglo-Celts - who starting from scratch on this harsh wide brown continent, quickly built and were able to sustain an advanced civilisation. Just as they did everywhere else they populated the world in significant numbers - Britain, Ireland, New Zealand, the West Indies, southern Africa and North America.

But their success certainly hasn't been emulated by every other ethno-cultural group on earth, nor could it have been. I mean, suppose a bunch of African tribesman or Eskimos had have rocked up in Sydney Harbour in 1788 instead of Governer Phillip's fleet. Do you seriously think they would have achieved what the Anglo-Celts did?

That is not to say that other groups haven't contributed significantly to our nation, but it is the Anglo-Celts who are the backbone, and if the percentage population of Northern Europeans keeps diminishing, then we are asking for trouble, my friend.

[OzyGunja]

I posted this in an earlier thread.....didnt get much of a responce....lol
It's probebly relevent in adding it in again here now.....

Found some interesting links having a look thru the Govt's website on Immigration the other day... http://www.immi.gov.au/
There's lots of fine print amongst it all...but I recon I might be onto something.

See..To get Australian citizenship all immigrants have to sign their life away and make some pledges and promises to the people of Australia.
Amongst other things, they have to read or have explained to them the contents of the "Life in Australia book".
http://www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/values/book/

The information that some applicants are required to have read or had explained to them before they sign the values statement is called the Life in Australia book. This book provides information about Australian history, culture, society and the values we share to help applicants understand the values statement..

So after they have read and undestand the "Life in Australia" book..they then have to sign a "Values Statement" to be eligiable for citizenship.
http://www.immi.gov.au/living-in-australia/values/statement/long/

Part of this "Values Statement reads - "If I meet the legal qualifications for becoming an Australian citizen and my application is approved I understand that I would have to pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people."

Now I recon we should make the immigrants accountable to those forms, statements, and promises they made to us when they came here for starters.
If they prove to fault on these promises...Why cant we legally kick em the fuck out!

"I understand that I would have to pledge my loyalty to Australia and its people."

Thats the deal cunts!...Live up to it!... or FUCK OFF!

[jesusfuckinchrist]

Of course they were because they brought crime to Australia. The Italians were involved in organised crime (and still are). When the Asians came, the heroin problem grew. When we let in Africans in the 1990s, we started getting carjackings.

Well according to the Australian Bureau Of Statistics Italian immigrants are the least likely to be jailed for a serious offence, the jailing rate being 1 for every 2620.. Much lower than the Australian average.

As for Asians and heroin, yes there may have been a slight incline, not that I’ve seen the statistics and not that you have provided any (once again). Australia was the largest per capita consumer of heroin in the western world during the 1930s and in 1953 (http://www.druginfo.nsw.gov.au/illicit_drugs/heroin/heroin.pdf) – how many Asians were around then?
 
It also states “There are now substantive indicators which suggest heroin use and the numbers of heroin users in NSW and Australia generally, may have significantly declined over the past three years” – didn’t realise the number of Asians have declined over the past three years.

As for Africans and carjackings .  I question where you got this information from as a quick google search reveals “Currently, there is no standardised approach to recording carjacking incidents in Australia’ – Australian Institute of Criminology.

You see , the white power sites you use to get your skewed information from arent exactly  a reliable source – try atleast using a government website without an agenda that hasn’t just been whipped up in five minutes on MS paint  by some nazi that didn’t even get a high school certificate .

Multiculturalism is a political policy to actively encourage the strengthening, building, and promotion of separate cultural units within Australia.

Once again you need to back up the claims you make.  You obviously don’t have a tertiary education.

Ummm $200 odd million spent on SBS each year?

Haha I ask you for facts and this is the best argument you can present?  I’m not sure how this  does anything to support your stance, but for the record the ABC gets a  total budget of AU$1.13 billion annually’ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation)

Oh, and if you want facts. Here's a wonderful source.   

http://www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/pc/multi3.htm

As I stated earlier, a website made with MS paint by some nazi is hardly a reliable source .  Another quick google search reveals the creator of this site , Cameron McKenzie, is … umm lets see….FUCKING NOBODY.  Its laughable that you actually use this website as a source.  Once again, you obviously don’t have  a tertiary education.

For one, skin colour is but a very superficial aspect of race blah blah blah

Haha ok dumbarse .  Let me re-educate you , Colloquially speaking ,  referring to the colour of ones skin , is often used when  talking about race.  Do you think when Martin Luther King said "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." He was referring to albino africans or tanned whites? I can just see the confusion on peoples faces in the crowd pondering what he meant by ‘color of the skin’. Nice attempt at flexing your intellectual muscle though, dumbarse.

Contrary to what is commonly propagated these days, race is a critical factor in the human drama. Racial egalitarianism is one of the great delusions of our age. There is an enormous amount of evidence (and it's growing all the time) to demonstrate that different races of human display different intelligence levels, temperaments and behaviour.

Wow, glad you brought up this subject, not only is it a nice change from your usual anti-intellectual statements  (I applaud you)   but anthropology is  one of my favourite subjects and ties in with a book I’ve been reading ; ‘guns, germs and steel’ (winner of numerous awards such as Rhone-Poulenc science book prize, The Pulitzer and  The Aventis) written by Jared Diamond (along with people like Stephen Hawking and Richard Dawkins is  widely considered one of the great minds and critical thinkers of our time – you know , just a few more credentials than  Mr Cameron Mckenzie , whoever the fuck that is.)

Diamond states that; ‘An enormous effort by cognitive psychologist has gone into the search for differences in IQ between peoples ofdifferent geographic origins now living in the same country.  In particular, numerous white American psychologists have been trying for decades to demonstrate that black Americans of African origins are innately less intelligent than white Americans of European origins.  However, as is well known, the peoples compared differ greatly in their social environment and educational opportunities.  This fact creates double difficulties for efforts to test the hypothesis that cognitive abilities as adults are heavily influenced by the social environment that we experienced during childhood, making it hard to discern any influence of pre-existing genetic differences.  Second, tests of cognitive ability (like IQ tests) tend to measure the cultural learning and not pure innate intelligence, whatever that is.  Because of those undoubted effects of childhood environment and learned knowledge on IQ test results, the psychologists’ efforts to date have not succeeded in convincingly establishing the postulated genetic deficiency in IQs of nonwhite peoples.

Diamond then goes on to say , from his 33 YEARS of working with New Guineans , he actually found them to be more intelligent than westerners. ‘from the very beginning of my work with New Guineans, they impressed me as being on the average more intelligent, more alert, more expressive, and more interested in things and people around them than the average European or American is.  At some tasks that one might reasonably suppose to reflect aspects of brain function, such as the ability to form a mental map of unfamiliar surrounds, they appear considerably more adept than Westerners.  Of course, New Guineans tend to perform poorly at tasks that Westerners have been trained in since childhood and that New Guineans have not.  Hence when unschooled New Guineans from remote villagas visit towns , they look stupid to Westerners.  Conversely,  I am constantly aware of how stupid I look to the New Guineas when I’m with them in the jungle displaying my incompetence at simple tasks at which New Guineans have been trained since childhood and I have not.

Diamond states the reason for this intelligence difference is not race but rather  that Europeans have for thousands of years have been living in densely populated societies .  In these societies, infectious epidemic diseases of dense populations (such as smallpox) were historically the major cause of death , while murders were relatively uncommon and a state of war was the exception rather than the rule.  Most Europeans who escaped fatal infections also escaped other potential causes of death and proceeded to pass on their genes.  Today, most Western infants survive fatal infections as well and reproduce themselves, regardless of their intelligence and the genes they bear.  In contrast , New Guineans have been livinging in societies where human numbers were too low for  epidemic diseases of dense populations to evolve.   Instead they suffered high mortality from murder, chronic tribal warfare, accidents, and problems in procuring food.
To sum it all up nicely – all of the ‘dumb’ New Guineans were dead before they were able to reproduce, leaving only the intelligent to breed which has led to a  strengthening of  the gene pool.  Where as the unintelligent Westerners survived for long enough to breed regardless of their stupidity.

I can go on to explain why Eurasians seem to have dominated  the world , but I really cant be fucked  as it is a long and complex issue and cant really be explained in less than a few thousand words , but all I can say is that you are way , way off.  Try reading the book , if you can get your head around it.

Ummm so? Julia Gillard is of Welsh heritage too. With her immigration policies, it's obvious she doesn't care much about preserving Australia's European heritage either.

Well considering she became the fucking PRIME MINISTER OF AUSTRALIA I’m guessing she cares about it a lot more than your underachieving arse.  Tell me, what was the last thing you did to improve this country?

Darwin and Alice Springs have the highest crime rates in Australia, and you haven't made the connection?.

Yes I have you moron, as I stated in my last post they are the two most homogenous cities in Australia – but really it comes down to geography, poverty and lack of opportunities.
I lived and worked in Darwin for 18 months, have you even been there?   If you had then you’d know most of the organised crime is committed by  the Hells Angels and a few other clubs – just like where  I live now – but I guess that doesn’t count to you because they’re white.

But you don't understand why we rank so highly in such areas.

Actually ive got a pretty good understanding of that , but again it is a long and complex issue and Im a bit over typing for the moment – maybe I’ll explain it to you in my next post.

And before you mention the benefits of greater access to ethnic cuisine

Steak and chips man myself.. so , no.

I mean, suppose a bunch of African tribesman or Eskimos had have rocked up in Sydney Harbour in 1788 instead of Governer Phillip's fleet. Do you seriously think they would have achieved what the Anglo-Celts did?

No, because there wasn’t a way of them getting here in the first place.  Again, this is a long and complex issue and I don’t wish to delve into right now as I  have to hang a major shit .  But for now, let me put this to you – would the anglo-celts have achieved what they did with out the Chinese? Taking into account gun powder, the compass, printing, agriculture, engineering and warfare are all Chinese inventions?

[OzyGunja]

JFC - What are you ultimatley trying to achieve here?...I dont understand your motivation?...You know this is an Aussie Bogan forum right?.