Theres more to life than Holdens and Fords

[PISSFARTER]

DRIVIN A VW is like rooting a fat bitch, its fun till ya mates find out!

[PISSFARTER]

is there an echo in here or is that you stuttering you fuckhead![/b]

[NEO NAZI BOGAN]

 HEIL HERR LIAR PISSFARTER,
                                              Why are you talking to yourself and calling yourself a fuckhead.? You are reusing your old jokes about something being fun until your mates find out. Last time it was about riding a scooter. You have called us boring but you have now shown all the bogans how boring you are  SIEG!!!!!!

The almighty FUHRER thinks you are so dumb that he laughs at your pitiful attempts at anything you post on this site

[PISSFARTER]

Suck another black dick goose!!

[Big Fella]

Can you carnts shut the fuck up with that shit and rite something like;
'the P76 is the most under rated car in Australin motoring history as that video shows' or
'the P76 was the biggest piece of shit in Australian motoring history'
Anyway, I like the end of the video when the bloke does a burnout in the garage and someone outside says something like 'whats goin on, is there a fire in there' and someone else says 'What a fuckin idiot'.

[Rudolph Hess]

Actually Big Fella the P76 wasn't the piece of crap a lot made out.

Wheels car of the year said something and even though the Camira was car of the year still proved that the title as car of the year was a prestigeous trophy to win.

The 6 performed as good as anything from Ford or Holden, it handled better till the advent of RTS and the Ford and Holden equivelant. It ran Borg Warner diffs and gear boxes which weren't a problem.
It had class leading interior room and a boot that was fucking huge.
Styling for the time was as good as anything else and it was better equiped.
Th V8 was the pick though and it went well and consumed less fuel then the Holden ,Ford and Vailiant.
It did however send Leyland Australia broke.
It fell apart at an astonishing rate, it's finish was poor and things fell of it quicker than space shuttle tiles.
It was generally a good car plagued by shoddy workmanship , poor build quality and  finish

[Big Fella]

Thanks for that. Now I know why I've always had a bit of admiration for them.

[PISSFARTER]

Mate ya cant go past a BB hemi!!!

[Big Fella]

Nice one Ozygunja, I'd almost forgotten about them too.

[Rudolph Hess]

The 6 pack Charger was quicker over the quarter mile than the Phase3 GT Falcon!

Mate those Septic muscle cars are a good bit of gear as well. Some of those Plymouth Barracuddas and the like were fucking awesome.

Sorry to dissappoint you though. The only time a Charger beat a GTHO over the quarter was with a track pack big tank E49. A 1972 model. Phase 3 is a 1971 model. It would have got hosed by a Phase 4 and it got hosed by any Phase 3 that had the factory no cost option 3.5 or 3.9 diff ratio. The E49 big tank was a Bathurst ready car to compare it with a road going GTHO isn't on. It should have been run against a QC'd GTHO. A QC (quality control) Phase 3 had around 50 more horsepower than a standard GTHO.
Both were built for Bathurst and if memory serves me correct the GTHO in 1972 was something like 6 seconds faster around the Mt Panorama circuit.
Even the mighty little XU1 was faster than the E49.
The E49 and E38 are great cars but a lot of people get tied up in a 1/4 mile time that was never repeated anywhere in any other test. Other motoring publications of the time even doubted how accurate that single pass of the E49 was.

[Rudolph Hess]

Actually all those early muscle cars were great things, about the only thing that pulls harder is TRoy with a Penthouse

[OzyGunja]

Mate those Septic muscle cars are a good bit of gear as well. Some of those Plymouth Barracuddas and the like were fucking awesome.

Sorry to dissappoint you though. The only time a Charger beat a GTHO over the quarter was with a track pack big tank E49. A 1972 model. Phase 3 is a 1971 model. It would have got hosed by a Phase 4 and it got hosed by any Phase 3 that had the factory no cost option 3.5 or 3.9 diff ratio. The E49 big tank was a Bathurst ready car to compare it with a road going GTHO isn't on. It should have been run against a QC'd GTHO. A QC (quality control) Phase 3 had around 50 more horsepower than a standard GTHO.
Both were built for Bathurst and if memory serves me correct the GTHO in 1972 was something like 6 seconds faster around the Mt Panorama circuit.
Even the mighty little XU1 was faster than the E49.
The E49 and E38 are great cars but a lot of people get tied up in a 1/4 mile time that was never repeated anywhere in any other test. Other motoring publications of the time even doubted how accurate that single pass of the E49 was.

http://www.valiant.org/charger.html

Yeah....your right.....thanks for the imput.

But Charger (Crysler) fans have always loved this fact....and Ford fans have been forever living it down and making up excuses!  LOL

Cheers

[Rudolph Hess]

No , not making any excuse's at all.

Both cars were made for Bathurst, both cars in their day were incredibly fast.
One was slightly faster at a certain point when the other one would show it's strengths.
The Charger certainly was potent up to 100mph after that the GTHO would take over. The Chargers top speed at around 6500rpm(1000revs past it's redline) was around 130mph.
A stock GTHO Phase 3 at its recommended redline of 6150rpm(rev limited) would top 141mph. Disconnected some would reach 7500rpm in top or nearly 160mph. They revved them to 6500rpm at Bathurst and 7000rpm on Conrod straight.
The E49 with it's 3.5 diff ratio certainly pulled harder than the GTHO Phase 3 with it's 3.25 diff ratio  through the lower gears and up to around the 100mph mark after that it's was the GTHO's domain.

When people think of GTHO peformance times nobody ever talks about the factory diffs that were available.
When you ordered your PHase3 you were asked what you wanted with it.
The following is an extract from an Australian Sports Car World magazine i have from  September 1971.
"Another important development in the Phase 3 is the availiblity of of close and wide ratio gearboxes and three diffs -- 3:25,   3:5,  and 3:9 to one.(the bathurst cars will run the 3:25 ratio)"

Taken from the same magazine. 1/4 mile for a 1969 GTHO Phase 1. =  14.4
So it matches the E49 Charger.

Unfortunately the only Phase 3's ever tested were all the wide ratio gearbox with the 3:25 diff.

Car's fitted with the 3:5 diff recorded times around the 14 flat and cars fitted with close ratio gearboxes and 3:9 diffs ran mid 13 second quarter miles on street rubber.
I personally know of a stock standard GTHO with close ratio gearbox and a 3:9 diff that runs high 12's to low 13's 1/4 mile times on modern rubber.

Not taking anything away from the E49. It was certainly more than a match at times for the GTHO Phase 3.  The GTHO's strength is it was made for one reason and that was to win Bathurst which it did easily in 1971 filling 5 of the first 6 positions and getting a 1 2 3 podium.
The only thing that stopped it 1972 was a wet track and a guy that was arguably the best touring car driver in Australia's history.  Not to mention a spin while leading comfortably by John French in the GTHO.

Heres a good read.

http://falcongt.com.au/HO-DTH.html

[fangle_dangle]

GTHO phase 3's were fuckin units

[BoganM]

GTHO phase 3's were fuckin units

got a 1971 xy sedan done up just like one, 351 in it